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Handling, flexing, rattles? - Vette targa verses convertible

From: "Fred" <antispam(at)aol.com>

Subject: Handling, flexing, rattles? - Vette targa verses convertible

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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:58:06 GMT

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Sorry, just another Vette targa verses convertible question. Now I am

wondering about the suspension, handling, body flexing etc of one verses the

other. On some cars, traditionally, the convertible versions flex a lot

more, rattle more, are noisier in general, etc. Are heavier too. In

Corvette-land, what is the story? Specifically with the C5s (which I

presume is the closest thing to a C6 which is what I wish to buy) . What

are all the pros and cons of both the targa and convertible? Once the C6

cars hit the showrooms, I will indeed study and inspect them backwards and

forwards, test drive, etc. But as I sit here staring at photos of Vettes,

drooling, I`d love some advanced information from experienced Vette

enthusiasts to start me off. Thanks for all the input! And thanks to those

who have answered my wind noise question! Much appreciated.








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From: "Dad" <knockers(at)fish.net>

Subject: Re: Handling, flexing, rattles? - Vette targa verses convertible

Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:44:45 -0400

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"Fred" <antispam(at)aol.com> wrote in message

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> Sorry, just another Vette targa verses convertible question. Now I am

> wondering about the suspension, handling, body flexing etc of one verses

the

> other. On some cars, traditionally, the convertible versions flex a lot

> more, rattle more, are noisier in general, etc. Are heavier too. In

> Corvette-land, what is the story? Specifically with the C5s (which I

> presume is the closest thing to a C6 which is what I wish to buy) . What

> are all the pros and cons of both the targa and convertible? Once the C6

> cars hit the showrooms, I will indeed study and inspect them backwards and

> forwards, test drive, etc. But as I sit here staring at photos of Vettes,

> drooling, I`d love some advanced information from experienced Vette

> enthusiasts to start me off. Thanks for all the input! And thanks to

those

> who have answered my wind noise question! Much appreciated.

>

>

I`ve yet to drive a C5 or a C6, coupe (3,246#), convertible (3248#), or Z06

(3173#) that has a rattle or noticeable body flex. There is nothing

traditional about the C5 convertible as far as more flex than the coupe. The

frame is 4 times stiffer torsionally and weighed 114 pounds less that the

1996 convertible. The class top is not a structural member as it was in the

C4.You must be thinking about the horror stories about the C4. I drove one

of those more miles than I care to admit now that I`ve put over 56,000 miles

on the C5`s. Of course I didn`t get to ride in the C6 off the parking area

so its not much of a test. There are no pros or cons about the coupe or the

convertible, you like one or the other. I always get a coupe with the glass

roof and unless there is a beauty queen sitting on the roof the glass top

stays on nearly all of the time. There are no Corvette "targas", just the

coupe with a removal panel, convertible, and the FRC and/or Z06. GM never

uses that term as far as I know, but even the Corvette black book does, but

they have no connection to GM. As far as handling the Z06 was built for that

reason, but it`s a toss up when you watch the times at the autocross. If you

can`t drive the Z06 to it`s full potential you will be beat by those coupe

and convertible drivers that can.



Tire noise is the worst thing I can think of on the C5 and the C6 has a new

tread design that may help that problem. Between 10 and 15,000 they started

to howl on all three sets that I have run. I now have a set of non runflats

that I run on trips and they are smoother, quieter, and stick better than

the stock tires and they have an all season tread that I run in the winter.



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Dad

04 C5 CE Z51

05 C6 Silver/Cobalt/6spd order in hand.

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From: "Fred" <antispam(at)aol.com>

Subject: Re: Handling, flexing, rattles? - Vette targa verses convertible

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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 19:37:49 GMT

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Thanks for the info!



<< Tire noise is the worst thing I can think of on the C5... I now have a

set of non runflats that I run on trips...>>



Non-runflats.... ok, what do you do if you get a flat? Just curious. Since

I am new to Corvettes, the whole concept of not having a spare tire seems

quite odd to me. By the way, how long have Corvettes been manufactured

without spare tires? What year did they start the non-spare tire set-up?

Have you ever heard of anyone adding some type of a baby-donut spare into

the back of their modern Corvettes? I realize that there is basically no

space for a spare... but... getting a flat is part of driving, there needs

to be some way of safely driving the car to a tire shop if the tire should

go down. I do a lot of long distance driving in the backwoods... getting

totally stranded in the middle of nowhere is something I wish to avoid at

all costs... getting a flat is not too uncommon.



I am familiar with riding motorcycles... of course, on a bike, you do not

carry a spare wheel / tire... but I used to carry a quick patch kit with

some compressed air canisters, at least with this set up there is a chance

(even if small) that you could get the vehicle rolling again after a

puncture as opposed to being totally stranded in the middle of nowhere.

I`ve been lucky with the bike, never got a flat... but I have gotten several

flats with my cars and was very glad in every case that I had a good

properly inflated spare tire in the trunk. Yes, I am one of those

meticulous semi-neurotic characters that checks his spare tire pressure

everytime the regular tire pressure is checked. I once got two flats in one

trip. Fortunately the second flat occurred after the first flat was

repaired so my spare was still handy. It happens.



Does there exist a proper temporary "donut" spare tire for the C5 Corvette?

I would think that Chevy dealers would have such a thing on hand merely as a

tool for moving the car around in the case of a bad blow-out. I would guess

that new Vette tires might not always be in stock in all locations at all

times.



Would love to hear comments regarding this issue. When I was eyeballing a

C5 for the first time at the dealer not too long ago, I spent quite a bit of

time trying to find the spare... the salesperson probably had a good chuckle

before he explained the whole run-flat thing to me.












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